What car would you buy if only it had a manual?

"hethoughtofcars" (hethoughtofcars) 01/16/2014 at 16:47 • Filed to: manual, manual week

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For me, since BMW never imported the 5 door 1-series (one of my favorite cars), I will go with the 3-series wagon. Yes, it's awesome that BMW continues to give us 3-series wagons when they only account for 2% of the 3-series sales, but dammit I want a manual wagon! Also one that doesn't have AWD, but that's another story.

What car would you buy (or at least consider) if only it had a freaking manual?

For Sweden > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:49

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EDIT: I'm an idiot.

The correct answer is all cars.

Goshen, formerly Darkcode > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:51

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TTAs and GNXs. Man why did they have to come with slushboxes.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:51

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Me? I can't afford a car lol. But if I could, I'd say a Lexus GS F Sport.

Brian Silvestro > For Sweden 01/16/2014 at 16:51

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Came here to say this

YSI-what can brown do for you > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:53

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Anything with a gate. ANYTHING!!! By that I mean all the new Italian cars coming out. They deserve manuals.

Party-vi > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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Until BMW offers the 335i in estate form they get no more money from me.

thedevilinside > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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A TSX Wagon, ya it's FWD, but I still would want one. My dad was looking at cars right when it came out. He likely would have gotten one, but criteria #1 was manual.

davedave1111 > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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I've always wondered if I'd want a Citroen C6 with a manual, or whether it's fine that they all came in auto. It's not like they're really designed to be hustled around fast.

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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Volvo 740/760 Turbo

IF I ever find one, I will most definitely buy it right away.

Ohh the hooning that would ensue of me finding one...*daydreaming*

jariten1781 > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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Mercedes CL550...not with a fancy speed or anything...just give me a 5 speed and let the miles fade away.

04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. > 04sneaky - Boxers. Blowers. Bikes. And bitches. 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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Ohh an obviously the CTS-V Wagon.....

But that's pretty much a given for all of OPPO.

Takuro Spirit > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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Manuél Ferrari > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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If the Ferrari 458 replacement had an option for a stick I think I'd have to sell my house to get one. That's how badly I would want it. The 458 is already great and the replacement will be even better if past history is any guide. The F355 was an evo of the 348 and it was much better. The F430 was an evo of the 360 and it was much better. The 458's replacement will be an evo of it and it should be awesome. And it might be the last N/A V8 that the Dino line uses. There are rumors that Ferrari will move to a TT V6 in the future. The last N/A V8 would end up becoming a collectors item in the future.

So it's a good thing that Ferrari won't offer a stick. That will save me from making a terrible financial decision. My house will probably appreciate more in the long run than a Ferrari might if held for 40 years...

camaroboy68ss > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:54

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A Chevy SS wouldn't mind the auto but if it had a manual i would be saving for one for sure

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/16/2014 at 16:55

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The wording is confusing lol, I think it's asking what cars would you buy that come auto only, if they had a Manual instead.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 01/16/2014 at 16:56

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I changed my words to mean all the new Italian exotics. I don't want a new one cause they don't have a manual :'(

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > YSI-what can brown do for you 01/16/2014 at 16:56

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I'd still take one, haha.

CAR_IS_MI > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:57

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Ummm...

There are SSOOOOO Many!!

But I would say primarily, if money were no option, any high end sports car or supercar. I know the DCT in the 458 Italia is beyond impressive, but on the offshoot I take it to the track... otherwise, being able to shift in .003523 seconds means nothing to me. On the street, I would rather row my own gears.

rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:57

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If a manual was available, I'd already own one.

Gamecat235 > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 16:58

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uh... You mean the Volvo T-5R / 850R / Subaru SVX question?

YSI-what can brown do for you > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 01/16/2014 at 16:59

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I mean, if someone gave one to me, hell yeah I would take it. But if I had to buy it, no thank you sir!

Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:00

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AMG products mostly. It is a huge crime for me that they don't come with MT.

Current Jaaaaags are also cars I will buy if they had a manual. Actually I am currently looking at an S-Type diesel with a manual for my father to buy as a new family car.

PRBot II > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:00

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The F-type.

Or any Jaguar coupe from the last 15 years.

hethoughtofcars > thedevilinside 01/16/2014 at 17:02

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Wow! That is certainly one of my picks too that I thought about when making this post! Even though I've read that Acura dealers are having a hard time getting them off their lots, a manual transmission might change that. Maybe.

jlmounce > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:03

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If I was buying new, the Chevrolet SS. If I was buying used, probably a Subaru SVX.

hethoughtofcars > davedave1111 01/16/2014 at 17:04

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I know nothing of this car, but I like your style.

hethoughtofcars > Goshen, formerly Darkcode 01/16/2014 at 17:06

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You know those cars are so old a manual transmission swap might not be too terribly taxing. Imagine the street cred you'd obtain with a manual GNX....

hethoughtofcars > camaroboy68ss 01/16/2014 at 17:06

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If it were a Pontiac it would have a manual option. Damn you GM!

Manuél Ferrari > CAR_IS_MI 01/16/2014 at 17:07

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haha see my reply to this thread

i totally agree

i can't afford a 458. but if the replacement came with a stick i would sell my soul for one

Reigntastic > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:07

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Anything AMG.

camaroboy68ss > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:12

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I could just swap the parts over then. I never have been a big fan of pontiacs but you could pull all the components out of a G8 and put them into a ss or wait for someone to make a swap kit for the car.

m2m, apex detective > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:13

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I should start a business exporting manual wagons to the U.S.

(imagine JD-style daydream sequence here)

SpeedSix > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:13

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CAR_IS_MI > rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S 01/16/2014 at 17:14

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This is true, except it would have to be the MC version.

Denton > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:14

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I actually bought a CPO 2011 328xi Touring 6-speed manual with Sport Package. Put my money where my mouth is.

I'd love an F31 manual but might go for the 328d Touring.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 17:19

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If the 458 came with a manual I'd consider it the best modern supercar on sale today, and if Ferrari moves to a TT V6, they will be much less appealing to me (although they'll convince the public that it's the greatest thing ever and win everyone over)

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 17:22

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Let's hope the TT rumors aren't true!

A 458 or 458 successor with a gated manual would be pure heaven. You could drive it for the rest of your life (as long as you could afford the maintenance). I honestly feel that I would never need more HP. Who cares if future Ferraris have 1000 HP? I would be more than content with the 458's level of performance if it just had the damn stick!

davedave1111 > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:23

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Does that mean you haven't seen the Top Gear segment? Awesome, you've got something to watch :)

http://www.streetfire.net/video/042-top-…

They have a bizarre depreciation curve. They were about £30k new, and like all big Citroens lost two thirds of their value in the first three years, selling for no more than about £10k, but what's weird is that the market seems to have bottomed-out at 6 years old and £6-7k.

nermal > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:25

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Land Rover LR4 / Discovery. Just need to find one with the steering wheel on the correct side.

Diesel / Manual / 4X4. Yummy.

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 17:25

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If Ferrari made the gated manual with any of their cars, no matter what the engine, I'd want to throw money at it. (Make a manual 4C, Fiat!)

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 17:27

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yeah i'd probably even take the California with a manual

i wouldn't care if people said i was driving a girl's car.

it looks pretty awesome in black with yellow calipers and a black interior with yellow stitching

Denton > Gamecat235 01/16/2014 at 17:27

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I do have a '96 850R "estate" that, as all of the US cars, has an automatic. The Euro cars with the 5-speed manual have a slightly larger turbo and LSD. Much want

Denton > Party-vi 01/16/2014 at 17:27

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Move overseas or get the diesel.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 17:27

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another car I'd be lusting after if it came with a stick -

the F430 16M Spider

there are only 499 of them in the world

if only there were a few with a gated manual...

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 17:29

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I love the California in silver, and with the top up it looks amazing. It's a shame the purposefully made it down on power, that engine has so much unused potential.

hethoughtofcars > davedave1111 01/16/2014 at 17:35

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Nice. Thanks. :)

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 17:36

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To be honest, I didn't know that car existed! You learn something new everyday! I got really happy knowing that they made a drop-top scuderia, then I got really sad when you said none were manuals. A manual scuderia would be the ultimate Ferrari.

CPT Speedbump > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:41

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AMC/Renauledge > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 17:41

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The V6 Dodge Challenger. Chevy and Ford offer MTs with their V6 models. But I like the Dodge better. I haz a sad.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 17:54

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Wow I'm glad I told you about it! It's so sick!!!

I once read a rumor that there was one copy with the 6MT. But it was a long time ago and I didn't save the we page where I read it. And I can't find any mention of that anywhere now.

If you find that info let me know! If that car exists I will find the owner and offer him my home

TheOnelectronic > rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S 01/16/2014 at 17:58

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You aren't missing much either way.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 18:01

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Not just the 3-series wagon, but...

Alpina D3 Biturbo

SharkBait19 > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 18:01

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IS300 SportCross of course! Because I-6 FR wagon needs a 6-speed!!!!

Also, I think a lot of people missed the point of this post. It's not, "which car do you want in manual?" It's, "Which car, that wasn't/isn't available in a stick, do you wish had come with a 3rd pedal?"

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 18:44

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Who needs a house?! You still have the M3 right? All the living space you'll ever need is in there.

McLarry > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 18:47

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If Merc AMGs had 3 pedals I think I would prefer them to their BMW M and Audi S competitors... but perhaps not as much as the recent Jag lineup with 3-pedal options!

Stupidru > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 18:51

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I mean I guess I already do own one, but my wife drives it. If it had a 5-speed, there would be 2 in our driveway

twinturbobmw > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 19:10

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I vote for the 991 GT3. I can understand a PDK only Turbo, but the GT3 is shpposed to be the driver's car, so it needs a manual.

rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S > TheOnelectronic 01/16/2014 at 19:12

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I've driven it a few times. It not a performance bargain by any means, but subjectively I think it's the best looking car sold today by quite a margin. I'm over chasing 0-60 or track attack times now, so a 6-sp MC would suit me just fine.

rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S > CAR_IS_MI 01/16/2014 at 19:12

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Agreed! (And I even like the color, although I would probably end up with white/red, silver/red or blue/tan.)

Nick, Drives a Cobalt LT > camaroboy68ss 01/16/2014 at 19:15

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Wait around next year, GM kinda hinted at a manual option in the future from what I have heard.

BrownMiataDieselWagon > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 20:53

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fhrblig > hethoughtofcars 01/16/2014 at 21:13

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Any full-size, non heavy-duty pickup with 4wd. I love that combo.

TheOnelectronic > rb1971 ARGQF+CayenneTurbo+E9+328GTS+R90S 01/16/2014 at 21:55

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It definitely has the looks, I just found it not particularly exciting to drive.

But then again, I'm weird.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 21:56

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Haha yeah. I can sleep in the M3. Showering might be a problem though...

I was thinking about something - now that the Gallardo is gone the Audi R8 V10 is the best new car you can get with a gated shifter (at least for now).

People who have the means to order a brand new one in the color they want should do it NOW!

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/16/2014 at 22:03

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It's the only new car you can get with a gated shifter. I see an Orange one every day I pass the dealership on the way to work, I hate the color, and it's been there for 2 months which means other people must hate it also, because the last R8 they had sold in about a week.

Tony Montana > PRBot II 01/16/2014 at 22:49

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The F-type with a manual? Makes perfect sense. I have no idea why they haven't done one yet.

But the XK, specifically the first generation? That car, even in R trim, was more of a cruiser. If there were a choice, for that car I'd choose the auto.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/16/2014 at 23:45

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Sorry I meant only new car

Why isn't everyone with the money to buy one placing an order now?

I'm not really into that orange either. I don't hate it. But I don't love it. I like the Lambo orange much better

Audi is using too many metallic colors with the R8. The bright non metallic special order colors look better

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 06:44

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Agreed. Those colors really bring out the sideblade. Such a cool car.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > hethoughtofcars 01/17/2014 at 09:44

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Volvo S60 T6
The only reason my stepdad didn't get one (and then got a gti instead) was because of it's lack of a stick, and a 3rd pedal

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 13:02

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If you were buying used and limited to the standard colors which one would you pick?

It would be so hard for me to pick. I don't love any of the standard colors. But I like a few of them equally. Actually I like pretty much all of the standard colors other than the orange, the new matte colors, and the darker of the metallic blues.

If I had to narrow it down I would pick from this list:

The lighter metallic blue (not the super light grayish one, but the actual blue)

White

Silver

Dark gray

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 14:23

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I'd either go with the metallic blue or the black. I saw a black one in person and thought it was a perfect, clean color for the car.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 14:38

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I like how classy the black looks

My only grumble with it is that it doesn't "pop"

All the black accents on the car blend in when the paint is black

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 16:01

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I think that's the trouble with all of the available colors, none of them really pop. Maybe the blue but that's it. Blue its the only other color I'd get besides black.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 17:14

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I think this is the standard blue that I like. I'd have to see in person to make sure

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 18:26

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Yeah that looks like the one for me. I'd go for the coupe though (I'm sure you would too) it looks stunning.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 19:04

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me too.

that was just the first one i could find with the right color

glad you like that color too

that will be what i pick if i'm one day able to afford a used R8 V10 6MT. the color will be brian approved :)

the only exception will be if i get super lucky and happen to find a used one that had a custom ordered color that i liked better

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 19:48

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I formally give this car my stamp of approval!

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 19:55

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Nice!!!

You will be the first to know if I make this happen one day.

For now I gotta focus on being able to keep both the M3 sedan and the 997

His Stigness from oppo is supposed to buy the E46 M3 any day now. He feels like a traitor because it's not a Merc. But it is German.

One day I'm going to get him to buy an American car, haha

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 19:58

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Ha! Hey His Stigness.... I hear Ford and Chevy are making good cars these days.... you should check 'em out.....

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 20:01

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We went out driving last Sat

I showed him the Z06 on my phone

Even he was impressed. You can't scoff at that power for that price...

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 20:04

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The Z06 is really a game changer. It shakes the whole segment up for sure.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 20:06

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I think it's going to shake things up like the GTR did, except in a bigger way.

Reason: people will actually buy the Z06

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 20:12

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Well you hit the nail on the head. The GTR is boring and Nissan-y with an awful interior. The Z06 is badass, has a great interior, more power, has RWD, and has a manual transmission. AND it's cheap as hell.

Manuél Ferrari > Brian Silvestro 01/17/2014 at 20:27

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And the Z06 is more likely to make the panties drop, haha

Brian Silvestro > Manuél Ferrari 01/17/2014 at 20:29

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Much more likely.

Louis Subearth > nermal 01/26/2014 at 13:18

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Couldn't you find the transmission, ECU and gauge cluster to convert a local LR4 to manual?

Louis Subearth > hethoughtofcars 01/26/2014 at 13:27

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It's the current gen, OK.